I was a sexually active teenager, Not a child

Samantha fighting online and defending Roman:

Karin Pritchard: Roman Polanski didn’t hurt you? Sex particularly anal sex is horribly painful. Your claims others abused you more than paedophile Polanski did is vile. Every child that has been raped myself included thinks you try to minimize the effects paedophiles have on their victims. I suppose money paid to you helps you sleep at night.

samgeimer: I was examined in the emergency room that night, and I had no injuries, regardless of your opinions on anal sex. Victims have a right to their own experiences. It is unkind to ask a victim to be more damaged then they are for your own satisfaction. I was a sexually active teenager, not a child, and just for the record, it was 3 weeks before my 14th birthday which really does not fit into the definition of pedophilia. Trying to maximize the affects that a rape has on anyone is a terribly cruel thing to do, all survivor’s should have their experiences and their feelings respected. Exaggerating some, will not help those who are truly suffering. As for the money, I deserved the settlement after all I’d been through and I’m sure spitting more venom would have sold a lot more books. I am sorry that you wish I was more harmed, but I wasn’t, and that’s just the truth. You can’t substitute your feelings for my actual experience, and why would you want too?

Karin Pritchard: People like you are dangerous. You are the sort that wants to make adults having sex with children normal and acceptable. A 13 year old is a child. Experienced sexually at that age is appalling. It’s your utterly immoral attitude that encourages paedophilia and child rape.

samgeimer: Thank you for your moral judgment on me. As I said, you have a right to your opinion. What makes you think that your behavior is not dangerous and ugly is beyond me. I hope that insulting me has brought you some comfort. I however will not feel bad about anything on your behalf. You seem to have enough hatred in you for the both of us. You are free to live your life that way, and I will also live my life the way I choose. I’m sorry that it upsets you so that I am recovered and not forever damaged so you can use my “victimhood” to prove some point.

Karin Pritchard: I’m not the one posting adults having sex with children doesn’t harm them. YOU ARE. You are as twisted as Polanski. I’m certain your upbringing is to blame. Your mother farmed you off on dirty old rich perverts. I can’t imagine any normal 13 year old saying anal rape isn’t painful or abusive. Hopefully decent people will ignore your pleas to have Polanski free of prosecution. Child rapists should be prosecuted. Children can’t consent to sex regardless of how sexually experienced they claim to be.

samgeimer: you should really get some help, attacking victims of sexual assault is a very ugly and damaging thing to do. I have only talked of my own experience, the worst of it was always dealing with hateful nasty people like you who pile on to what was already difficult with their blame and judgment. you help no one, the shame on you.

Karin Pritchard: You don’t give a toss about real victims of child rape. You are only interested in making money off your experience. You want the world to believe children being raped by adults is not harmful nor abusive. I’m certain as long Polanski the paedophile keeps paying you dearly you will carry on with your vile lies. If the age of consent is drastically lowered paedophiles will be celebrating no thanks to twisted old trollops like you.

samgeimer: you really missed the point of the post, I’ll leave your disgusting comments up only so people can see the terrible abuse survivors of sexual assault have to endure even from those who falsely act as if they would help them.

Who the fuck is this Pritchard cunt?

Samantha herself doesn't brand Roman as rapist or pedophile.

Is it okay if I hate all three of them?

R4 I think " this Pritchard cunt" represents the opinion of the general public including most people on DL.

Samantha Jane Geimer: It would be nice if Roman could get a well deserved award without being followed with blatant lies about what occurred 42 years ago. As if a corrupt court was not bad enough, now I have to read the fantasies of others about what happened to me, so they can have an excuse to hate

Samantha Jane Geimer: Innocent until proven guilty may be trivial to some, I would argue we don't need to throw it out in the name of women's equality. Hundreds of French female lawyers defend controversial Roman Polanski

Samantha Jane Geimer: To use the me in this way, without my consent and against my will, is just another violation. Cesar 2020 : le boycott de Roman Polanski réclamé par des associations féministes

Samantha Jane Geimer: Roman Polanski has done nothing to her, nor are any other children, women, & men.

Samantha Jane Geimer: hey shaggy, roman served his time, sorry to burst your victim abusing bubble. our suffering is not yours to use.

Samantha Jane Geimer: He's an 85 year old man who has been married 30 years and has 2 adult children. In all these years he has never been charged with another crime, not even for jumping bail.

Samantha Jane Geimer: · Holocaust survivor wins Oscar for film about Holocaust, kick him out of the Academy because, Harvey Weinstein #NotHelping #ItsNotRetroactive

Where is this? Instagram?

Another fight:

Jesus Bat-Canary Rose · How about don't shame victims of sexual assault for being afraid to come out about it? Not everyone is you.

Samantha Jane Geimer: · This isn't about me. It's about the rest of you who gleefully use victims of sexual assault as weapons and tools, happy they were hurt because they are useful to you. You're just another who isn't satisfied because I won't bleed and hate for you.

esus Bat-Canary Rose · No. I'm just unsatisfied about the fact that you refuse to believe a victim. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Samantha Jane Geimer : Roman is a man who has admitted what he's done and served his time. No amount of true or false accusations 40 years after the fact can change that.

"Samantha herself doesn't brand Roman as rapist or pedophile."

Are you sure about that?

Not that she isn't obfuscating. But I guess you are over-compensating since two of your pervy threads were cut dead.

Just not getting that fix tonight, huh?

R12 "Are you sure about that?"

In her own words from OP:

" I was a sexually active teenager, not a child, and just for the record, it was 3 weeks before my 14th birthday which really does not fit into the definition of pedophilia."

Samantha Jane: Just another attention seeker using my assault, ignoring the facts, roman's guilty plea and time served,

Samantha Jane Geimer: unpopular opinion, women should be treated like adults, not like delicate ignorant flowers who, admit it, we'd all be better off if they stayed barefoot and in the kitchen. you know, to protect them from themselves.

Samantha Jane Geimer: and I'm garbage

This samantha woman is insane. She really is. I've posted a few things about polanski being a rapist on twitter (not to her) and she always replies back to me that I'm a liar and that he served his time and I should leave him alone. I posted something about him being accused of raping some other woman (I did not mention samantha at all or her case) and samantha went out of her way to reply to me defending him

What a fucking nutter. She has children and a husband and she is spending her free time going on social media to defend the man that drugged and raped her all those years ago. And that's fine if she wants to defend him raping her, but she goes all over the internet defending him in all the other women that accused him. Shame on her

Samantha Jane Geimer : does that matter? Woody Allen was never charged. Roman confessed and served his sentence.

Samantha Jane Geimer : yeah, getting dragged through the gutter for 43 years so that others can use my assault to either attack roman or advance themselves, while of course ignoring the truth, does make me testy now and then.

Samantha Jane Geimer: Fortunately, Polanski exists and saves cinema from its mediocrity! I judge him on his talent and not on his private life! I regret never having made a movie with him! Long live Roman!

Samantha Jane Geimer: I can understand Viva Roman.

Samantha Jane Geimer: It would be nice if Roman could get a well deserved award without being followed with blatant lies about what occurred 42 years ago. As if a corrupt court was not bad enough, now I have to read the fantasies of others about what happened to me, so they can have an excuse to hate

Samantha Jane Geimer: Innocent until proven guilty may be trivial to some, I would argue we don't need to throw it out in the name of women's equality. Hundreds of French female lawyers defend controversial Roman Polanski

As she said, her experience is her experience and no amount of victim shaming is going to change that. She does not feel victimized so why are you determined to make her a victim? Some people seem awfully personally invested in this story.

R15 True, She seems obsessed in defending Roman, even against the allegations made by other women . She even goes on youtube watching Roman's video, commercials, films directed by him.

R17 The strange thing that she goes to extreme lengths to defend Roman against other women accusations Not hers.

And I'm sure Roman doesn't spend two minutes thinking about her. Just that he doesn't want to be arrested again and brought back to the States.

R20 100% true. I'm sure he despises the day he met her.

I wasn't alive when this case went down and don't know any facts. Just want to ask some questions.

Why was this case alone so significant? After reading cdan blinds and hearing these shady stories of Hollywood moguls, she clearly wasn't the first or last rape victim. What about her was so powerful, or what transpired to make him flee the country? Or was this very rare back then?

Why was an almost 14 year old partying with adults? What did he think she was older? Was it a date rape like Last Tango in Paris? Did she consent then change her mind when he went for anal? Sounds like she initially went along with it but stopped and he kept going. He gled the country and says it's statutory rape only. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Still wondering how she managed to get the law to be enforced on Polanski, a powerful guy with connections, with the way things were back then. Was she from a rich family too? You know there were other various rape victims not as fortunate to have things work in their favor.

Fleeing the country made him look guilty as hell but after the murder of his wife maybe he had enough of America.

R17 People are irritated with Samantha Not because she doesn't see herself as a victim (good for her), but she aggressively defends Roman at every opportunity online, interviews, blog posts, tweets, and calls the other accusers liars.

It's like she is his paid lawyer. Not even Roman's friends defend him like that.

Continued from R15,

And when she replied to my comment about some other man, she also mentioned her case (even though I hadn't), I didn't' reply back because I noticed it was her and I noticed she had replied to other people's tweets. And I don't want to get into a fight with her. She's a victim. I wasn't going to go there

End of story? NO, oh NO

She came back one or two days later and she commented again to my one tweet that he is innocent and I don't know the facts and that he served his jail sentence and a corrupt judge is just trying to give him two jail sentences. I realized that, even though she had the last word, she wasn't going to let me end it like that. She wanted to argue with me. I replied back, "you're sick, get some help". She didn't reply

This is what she does for a hobby, goes around defending men accused of rape. I don't know what the heck kind of mental problem she has, but she most certainly does have one

R15 if that's true that she defends him, then perhaps it's a guilty conscience attempting amends for causing a lot of grief in his life.

R25 Yeah, I can't understand her lifelong obsession in DEFENDING Roman at every chance and calling the other women who accused him LIARS. The recent Cesar awards protest was NOT because of her, it was because of a french actress recently accused Roman of rape in 1975. Samantha made the recent Cesar protest about her, and accused them of exploiting her without her consent. She's totally crazy

I do wonder if he's paying her. Someone made the allegation and she didn't deny it.

She is free to see herself as she wants.

I will continue to see him as a remorseless rapist who flee justice.

Fled. Or, continues to flee.

Samantha claims that she is sick of people asking her about Roman and that she wants to move on with her own life. BUT she is the one who talks about him all the time voluntarily, goes on TV shows, write a whole book about Roman, tweets about him, a whole blog posts about Roman, goes on youtube searching for his clips and video. It's Insane.

For Samantha to condemn Polanski would mean also, by implication, condemning her mother for wittingly handing her over.

That ain't gonna happen.

R32 Samantha wrote a whole blog post about her inability to forgive her mother for calling the police. Samantha said that she felt that Roman didn't hurt her and it was just sex, no big deal. These are Samantha words not mine.

What's his past history and track record after this?

For her to continue to make him the center of her career seems like exploitation. Elizabeth Smart had it worse for months and refuses to talk about what happened to her.

It just seems like he said, she said with no proof. We'll never really know without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

And the media didn't release her name. She did. She came out and told her story (maybe in the 90's), but at the time she released her name, I seem to remember (but I may be wrong) she said that he drugged her and raped her - front and back, and that she has moved on and wanted the press attention every few years to end.

But she wouldn't let it end. He got accused by other women and she came out defending him. She doesn't know what happened to the other women. She wasn't there. But she's going to spend the rest of her life calling them liars

R32 but why obsessing about defending Roman against the other allegations that don't involve her?????? She is the one who makes everything regarding Roman about her.

Her defensive attitude towards Polanski looks weird but victims of abuse often have conflicted feelings towards their abuser that appear totally irrational to outsiders. It may be that she resists identifying as a victim because it feels humiliating or disempowering. A sexually active 13 (almost 14) year-old is still a vulnerable person and not legally able to consent to sex with a gross 40-something practiced predator who plied her with champagne and methaqualone.

R37 Why calling the other accusers liars?!!! She wasn't there.

She can speak on her experience But why attacking the other accusers?!!

Roman Polanski Victim Samantha Geimer Calls Academy Expulsion “Ugly and Cruel”

“It is an ugly and cruel action which serves only appearance,” said Geimer, who is now 55 and a grandmother living in Hawaii. “It does nothing to change the sexist culture in Hollywood today and simply proves that they will eat their own to survive. I say to Roman, good riddance to bad rubbish, the Academy has no true honor, it’s all just P.R.”

Why are we discussing something that happened between a near 60 year old and an 80 something year old?

From Wikipedia:

Samantha Geimer sued Polanski in 1988, alleging sexual assault, intentional infliction of emotional distress and seduction.[42] The case was settled out of court in 1993. After Polanski missed an October 1995 payment deadline, Geimer filed papers with the court, attempting to collect at least US$500,000. The court held that Polanski still owed her over $600,000, but it was unclear as of 2009 if this had since been paid.

OMG OP came here with a THREAD TO START, WITH QUOTES, FROM WHERE? WE DO NOT KNOW. But OP has STARTED A THREAD

R42 Comments from her twitter and blogs.

R25 She goes online/Twitter/Youtube, searching for Roman Polanski name just to defend him against anything . She started following Brigitte Bardot on Twitter after Brigitte tweeted a post defending Roman after the last Cesar awards

R12 Samantha refuses to call Roman a pedophile or rapist

Here at 11:47

Eye For Film: Amid controversy, Roman Polanski has decided against attending the Césars tomorrow

Samantha Jane Geimer: I'm sure the protesters are satisfied, all women in France are now safe.

david ramani: Do you know what I believe Mr Polanski thinks right now? "I can't wait until the ceremony is over, and the media will have enough of putting me in their headlines, so that my family will be left alone".

Samantha Jane Geimer: the disregard for his family bothers me the most, no human who has good intentions could be so callous and think they were doing right.

david ramani: Besides, do you really think they care about you? You wrote a tweet to one of those activists, and I've noticed she hadn't answered you.

Samantha Jane Geimer: I can say without reservations that absolutely have no care for me at all. Perhaps they even wish me ill so I would be more useful.

david ramani: I know it sounds a little paradoxical, but when you were suffering from the justice-media circus, it's not Valentine Monnier or the other accusers who came to help you and your family; it's Mr Polanski who did something significant to stop that ordeal, not them.

Samantha Jane Geimer: it mattered then and it matters now.

Polanski drugged her drink, he was going to fuck her whether she was willing or not, whether she was a virgin or not.

Thinking she had a choice, thinking she had some control over the situation may make her feel better now, but the fact is, she didn't. Polanski had the drugs all ready, it was a pre-meditated assault, and he deserves every bit of legal trouble and public scorn he's received. Absolutely nothing about his behavior that day was legal, moral, or one bit socially acceptable, and the wierdo who keeps posting defenses of him on the Datalounge deserves a universal "ignore user".

Samantha Jane Geimer: Listen to the women, what a joke.

Samantha Jane Geimer: And who the hell has Roman Polanski silenced? If they can't protest on the facts & must embellish & exaggerate, maybe they should do the hard thing instead, change the world they live in rather then demonizing men and abusing victims of actions that occurred half a century ago.

david ramani: And frankly, even Valentine Monnier was never silenced; her silence was HER choice.

Samantha Jane Geimer: each woman must make her own choice however, to change you mind after decades and then demand not only belief but action is an insult to those who did the hard thing and reported those they accuse. why report at all, just wait for your moment.

R47 "Polanski had drugged her drink"

FALSE., He asked her if she wanted to drink or to take drug/pill and she said That's alright and took it. Of course, it was WRONG, but it's not like he drugged her drink without her knowing.

"whether she was a virgin or not."

False, Samantha said Roman asked her if she had a boyfriend or had sex before and she said yes, Twice.

"Polanski had the drugs all ready"

Roman, Jack Nicklson and others carried drugs with them all the time. It was the norm for them to have drugs around.

Euterpia: Une fois arrivée sur le palier, celui-ci [Polanski], nu, se jette sur elle, la frappe, lui arrache ses vêtements, tente de lui faire avaler un cachet et la viole"

Samantha Jane Geimer: Okay, that's just a lie. How sick to spread blatant falsehoods about the statutory rape of a young women. You should look at your own abuse before you judge others.

Ivan Parcalev: Samantha, this abstract above is not about your rape,it's about rape of Valentine Monnier.

I feel as if Samantha is pissed off lately because they are talking about other accuser women NOT her. She wants to make all Roman related news about her.

The recent Cesar award protests was Not because of her case, it was because of Valentine Monnier, Still she made it all about her and accused the female protesters in Paris of exploiting and using her!

Samantha accusing the other accuser of lying:

Samantha Jane Geimer: Because he plead guilty, served his time & nobody but me ever accused him of anything, was willing to call the police or even come to my aid, as they watched what I went through. Decades later when these type of accusations are solicited, profitable and in fashion, it's too easy

Sand Van Roy: Its never easy to come forward. No matter what the circumstances are. And you had the chance to confront him in a court. She did not. which is something she will regret for the rest of her life. Did he really serve his time though?

Samantha Jane Geimer: I didn't confront him in court, I was further abused by a corrupt judge, it was more traumatic than what Roman did. He served more than his time & the truth of the misconduct in my case is still covered up. It is easier to make hurtful allegations you'll never have to prove.

Sand Van Roy: if u wanna forgive your rapist that’s fine. But don’t discourage victims to come forward by saying its easy to make hurtful allegations. Rape has nothing to do with sex. I understand ur anger but don’t stop supporting other victims because they need you

Samantha Jane Geimer: Do I really owe anyone support who silently watched me burn to spare themselves or their family pain & embarrassment? At least one accuser is clearly lying, so I shouldn't bear the burden of judging the truth of allegations about things occurring nearly a half century ago.

Sand Van Roy: Hey I get it. But her being slow at processing her trauma and paralyzed by the thought of going through what ur going through shouldn’t be things you can blame her for. Don’t say she’s lying without proof

david ramani: To be precise, the one who was brave at the time was Susan Gailey, Sam's mom. Still, Sam did what she had to do, and she sued successfully Mr Polanski in civil court.

Samantha Jane Geimer: my mom was the brave one, but at 14 I did what I needed to do. justice is not meant to be easy, we need to report and prove if we want justice and accountability. you can't expect to get either if you choose to stay silent, but you may be better off, so choose wisely.

david ramani: Don't forget your civil lawsuit; Your victory is, in my opinion, something that counts a lot too. You really took back the power then.

Samantha Jane Geimer: my mom says it made a difference in me. funny that the suit was more about the fallout than anything he did directly.

Getting raped by Roman and the insane publicity afterwards had clearly turned this woman into a nutcase. She seems to use her denial as a coping mechanism. Fine, whatever keeps her going, but shame on her for trying to silence other victims. No doubt pedophiles who wish to thwart society’s revulsion towards adult/child sex are thrilled that she’s carrying water for them.

What is going on on this website? Suddenly I am seeing a bunch of posts in defense of both Roman Polanski and Woody Allen. Allen was in the news recently because of his book. Polanski has not been as far as I know. But there’s a theme here of someone seeming to defend sex with children and certainly defending celebrity men who have been accused of raping children. Why are you posting this shit here? This isn’t NAMBLA as far as I know, and if Data Lounge is NAMBLA adjacent, then someone needs to say so so that I can get the hell out of here. I am getting grossed out by some of the content here.

I think there are two things going on here. 1) Polanski is her pension. 2) Her association with Polanski makes her feel important.

R57 Agree, It sounds like it. Samantha even said she maintain an occasional contact with Roman via email.

She's brainwashed. It happens sometimes when a victim can't rationalize what was done to them. Fuck Polanski.

There's also a phenomenon called traumatic bonding in which victims form an intense emotional attachment with the person abusing them, but that typically results from a relationship with an abusive parent or an abusive partner that occurs over an extended period of time. I don't know what if any relationship Samantha had with Polanski prior to the assault. Her continued contact with him must be meeting some sort of need... I struggle to see how it would benefit her psychologically.

R60 As she says in the interview above at R45, there is a bond formed between them and that She and Roman had a lot in common. That's what she said.

[Quote] She and Roman had a lot in common. That's what she said.

Did she elaborate?

What they have in common is decades of unwanted and intrusive media attention, but that attention would not exist had Polanski not sexually assaulted her in 1977. If Samantha believes that this is actually a shared ordeal that she and Polanski have undergone together and that the only other person on the planet who really understands her is the man who violated her when she was 13 years old, such distorted thinking is sadly typical amongst victims of abuse.

R62 She didn't elaborate but I believe what R63 said is the right answer.

Samantha always repeated that the fallout/media circus was what hurt her the most Not what Polanski ever did to her. She claims she wasn't traumatized by Roman having sex with her because she was already a sexually active teenage, 3 weeks away from 14 YO.

She keeps telling you all to stop projecting your agency onto her experience or doing her thinking for her. She obviously has processed this better than most of you. Perhaps you should listen.

She's processed it so well that the law doesn't matter? 13 year olds cannot consent. There's nothing to discuss on that subjec.

[quote] Samantha Jane Geimer: each woman must make her own choice however, to change you mind after decades and then demand not only belief but action is an insult to those who did the hard thing and reported those they accuse. why report at all, just wait for your moment.

What exactly does she mean by wait for your moment?

[quote]What exactly does she mean by wait for your moment?

The convenience of it all.

R65. Her opinion is immaterial. This wasn't a civil trial, it was a criminal one. HE BROKE THE LAW. AND THEN HE FLED ON CONVICTION. Those are the issues at play. She can keep collecting her money, hell she could even marry him. Doesn't change a thing

R65 No one is bothering her really, She is the one who deliberately seeks Polanski related posts/news and goes to extreme length to defend him against other women accusations NOT hers, then makes all RP things about her. She calls the other accusers liar. The woman is Crazy.

Why was Samantha's mother allowing her to hang out with Polanski anyway? Oh, what stories lie dormant in 1970s Hollywood.

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